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What the Pick Up Artists Don't Know - Power of Persuasion - Part 2

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In the first article in this series, we discussed the concept of reprocityWhat The Pick Up Artists Don't Know - Power of Persuasion - Part 1

In this second article of the "What the Pick Up Artists Don't Know - Power of Persuasion", I'm going to explain a psychological principle pick up artists often use to their benefit. They often use tactics related to this concept (in fact, The Mystery Method encourages this very concept), but they have no idea how or why it works. They explain it in their own way, and they are correct to some point. But once you understand the fundamental psychological principle behind this concept, you will be much better at using this tactic in your efforts to attract and pick up girls. This concept is called "the need for consistency" and sometimes I call it "even if I'm wrong, I can't be wrong".

You can witness this principle in action at any poker table in any casino in the world. From time to time you will witness what is called a "bad beat"--somebody has a really good hand of cards, but ends up losing to an even better hand of cards. For example a full house with 3 aces and 2 kings is a great poker hand. It is a monster hand. But up against any four of a kind, it is worthless. The person loses their money to an even greater monster hand and they are stunned. The person then goes on for the rest of the evening to lose game after game, and can't seem to catch a run of good cards.

The truth is this person actually experiencing "bad luck" or anything of the sort. What they are experiencing is the inability to be consistent or "right" based upon an earlier decision. What they end up doing is betting on hands that are of little value (which is usually what you are dealt most often in numerous hands of poker). They do this because they often think they were originally right when they lost to the "bad beat", so now they must "prove" they were right by repeating the pattern over and over demonstrating consistency. This need for consistency is a fundamental of every human being, and is difficult to go against. Professional poker players will say that it is always best to leave the table and quit for a while after losing to a "bad beat". This allows the brain to reset itself and prevents the individual from repeating this pattern of failure (consistency).

This need for consistency is a fundamental of every human being, and is difficult to go against. Professional poker players will say that it is always best to leave the table and quit for a while after losing to a "bad beat".

So what does this have to do with picking up women? Have you ever heard of using a "lock-in" prop? Mystery wrote about this in his original book and teaches this very concept. I doubt he knows all the psychology of why it works, but it does work. A lock-in prop is something that you leave with a girl that you have approached so that you give the illusion of "entrusting" her with something personal of yours that gives you a "lock" on her and gives you a good reason come back to her later in the evening. Often times he will leave a hat or perhaps some cheap piece of jewelry or a watch with the girl, telling her "hold on to this for me for a moment, I'll be back". Then, he would proceed to open other sets and later come back to her and use that prop to re-open the set again (I believe there is actually a DVD that demonstrates exactly how to do this).

Although it sounds like a different behavior, this is the exact same principle of consistency operating here. When the girl accepts the lock-in prop (its such a small favor, who could resist?), she subconsciously tells herself its the right thing to do. Most every girl will hang on to that cheap, lock-in prop all night long (even to the point of inconvenience) just because they are compelled to believe they were right to do it in the first place. This again is the principle of consistency at work. This is not the only principle at work here (trust is part of another principle we'll discuss in a later article), but the basic concept of consistency is at work.

You don't have to fully understand the principle to use lock-in props (or other tactics that I teach that use this principle). The point is that understanding the principle allows you the ability to improvise in scenarios and create that need for consistency in your targets (women).

Stay tuned for part 3 of the "Power of Persuasion" series.

Peace,
Seattle Willy

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What The Pick Up Artists Don't Know - Power of Persuasion - Part 1

Posted by SeattleWilly

Greetings Folks,

In this series of articles I am going to teach you about the fundementals of psychology as related to Persuasion and Influence that you can use to attract women/men and add to your pickup tools. These tools are equally useful for both men and women. In this first article, I want to introduce you to a concept that is as old as man. It is something that you probably use or have been "victim" to without even knowing it. This first concept is based upon human evolution and what is called the "division of labor".

Division of Labor

"Division of labor" is can be thought of as a the cooperation of life forms (in our case human) to produce higher output and increase survival of the species. In other words, humans devised a system through evolution that "divided" labor into individual parts, where each person would specialize in something that all humans needed in order to survive. The combination of each of these divided parts created a system in which all members of the species would benefit by the collective efforts of each individual.

At an unconscious level each of us humans has a built in "debt repaying system" or what can be called reciprocity hard-wire which is designed to ensure that we each "do our part". The principle is like this: If person A does a favor for person B, person B will feel "in -debted" to person A. This is like a built in guilt factor that compels a person to return the favor in some way--sometimes immediately. For instance, if I am sitting with you having a conversation and I say, "I am going to get a soda, I'll be right back" and upon return I also bring you a soda, I have now "done my part" for our survival. You will likely say "Thank you, you didn't have to do that". Now you are "in debt" to me and if I at some point decide to ask you for a favor, my chances of getting that favor will have increased dramatically.

This system of "give and take" is well documented in psychology and is in use in sales and marketing tactics today. The company Amway uses this very technique and it has been shown to increase their sales over standard practices. Amway sales representatives will often give "gifts" of small samples of cleaning supplies (and other products they sell) for potential customers to "try". When the sales person returns to the customer a few days later, the customer is often compelled to purchase something, just to get the gnawing feeling of guilt to subside. This is an unconscious desire which often goes unnoticed, but Amway knows it works. Sales people who did not leave behind these "gifts" show much poorer sales results.

So why is this important, and how can you use it to attract your mate? Irregardless of the science behind this concept, you can consciously use this technique to--at the very least--compel an individual to return a favor for you. Now I am going to give you some advice that will seem very contrary to much of what you have heard the so-called "pick-up artists" tell you in their instruction methods.

Buy a Woman a Drink

What!?! Yes, that is right. But you have to set up the situation properly and only do so based upon your initiation. If a woman says "buy me a drink", you should not comply, not because it is not "nice", but because she is setting up a hoop for you to jump through and when you jump through that hoop, you actually lose some of your attractiveness. The second thing you do NOT do is tell her "I am going to buy you a drink". Doing so decreases the potency of the purchase and gives her an opportunity to turn down your offer. When a waitress arrives at your table, you should know what she is drinking and order it for her automatically. You must NOT make notice of it like it is a big deal. If she thanks you, it is best to pretend you didn't hear her and continue your conversation. If you do it properly, you will have planted a small "investment" in her to return a favor. She is now "in debt" to you, and the guilt effect of "division of labor" will take its toll on her subconscious mind. That favor, of course, may include sex at some point in the future, but your job is certainly not over. You have only taken a small step forward in your game. Your investment will not pay off unless you use it in conjunction with all of the other techniques I have taught you.

Stay tuned for part 2 in the "Power of Pursuasion" series.

Peace,
-- Seattle Willy

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